S7E2 – How Could We? Manage the tension between agriculture, biodiversity conservation, and fair value chains?

Podcast 03 Sep 2025

In this episode, Daniel Zimmer from Climate KIC joins us just after returning from COP16, the UN’s Biodiversity Summit hosted by Colombia. We explore the challenges faced by indigenous communities, who manage 80% of the world’s biodiversity but are increasingly threatened by deforestation and land degradation.

Daniel shares insights on the pressing need for biodiversity finance—estimated at $700 billion by 2030—and the critical importance of ensuring that this funding reaches local levels, where it can have meaningfull impact. We discuss the tension between agricultural expansion, driven by rising demand for meat and land, and biodiversity conservation.

We also explore the role of value chains and the necessity of reconnecting local producers with the benefits derived from their resources, highlighting the connection between finance, local communities, agricultural practices, and biodiversity conservation.

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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3wykopVs8docdgOOW4oVdw?si=d577e92bfcd74cce

Amazon: https://music.amazon.de/podcasts/cfb1e591-ebaa-4144-834b-88075df82d80/episodes/49c5e5ca-1a30-4b43-b74e-e9cdfcec15e5/how-could-we-s7e2—how-could-we-manage-the-tension-between-agriculture-biodiversity-conservation-and-fair-value-chains

Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s7e2-how-could-we-manage-the-tension-between/id1662860056?i=1000675721217&l=vi

This episode was presented and produced by Anne-Sophie Garrigou.